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Postby Rhuac » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:04 pm

Scenario: You're a public speaking teacher and your class is deciding on "How To" topics. A student approaches you about giving his speech on how to plant a canibus plant. Do you let the student give his speech on this topic or not?

Now maybe I'm extreme but I say talk about whatever you want, if someone acts on something you've said, it's their own responsibility.

Suppose someone states the student shouldn't be allowed to because he is describing something that is illegal which they believe advocates the illegal activity. But that same person holds that if the student were to give a speech on making marijuana legal by trying to change the law, it would be acceptable.

Did I miss something here? Does this seem logical to anyone?
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Postby Majesticone » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:36 pm

I think Freedom of Speech rights come into play here. It's illegal to be in possession of marijuana, but it's not illegal to talk about it (like we are here). My thoughts are that as long as he doesn't bring "props" which are illegal to show how to do it, it is fine.
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Postby Bakerton » Fri Mar 12, 2004 3:39 pm

my public speaking class had people talking about all kinds of shit including pot plants ;)

now imo it depends on what his full subject is...if he is just gonna spew crap about how to plant then tell him to gtfo...but if he is going to present some facts and benefits to growing hemp/pot other than getting high let him roll :D
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Postby Rhuac » Fri Mar 12, 2004 4:47 pm

What you said Bakerton was what a few ppl in class have said, and I'd have to disagree. I don't think it should depend on anything. Namely because I think you should be able to 'talk' about whatever you want, even if it isn't productive. Now talking and doing are obviously separate and if someone were to actually go out and do something then I believe the responsibility is solely on their shoulders.

Then again the scenario was he was just explaining how to plant a plant.
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Postby killets » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:23 pm

No, you don't let the student.

Regardless of free speech, whether or not the material is appropriate for an in-class discussion is up to the Professor. In this case, allowing the student to conduct a class on how to perform an illegal activity is inappropriate, and the teacher would have complete authority to disallow it in his class.

From a school administration standpoint, you say no, because its not worth the liability risk, even if you naively think the first amendment will protect you. There are limits to even the first amendment. And while its quite possible the first amendment might hold up, the legal fees involved in finding out aren't worth it.
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Postby Mourningblade » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:36 pm

What Killets said.

Not worth the liability exposure.


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Postby berndog » Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:54 am

i agree...

not sure how its done in the states, but you will have everyone know that you smoke weed, and maybe even grow your own stuff.

That might have severe consequences if wrong people in charge -> drug testing -> police?

Personally, you have nothing to gain and a lot to lose.
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Postby Rhuac » Sat Mar 13, 2004 1:37 pm

So you guys think the speaker is laible if a person was to go out and actually do the act.

I suppose this is where we differ and I think it's the person that chose to do act's responsibility.

... and I don't even smoke.
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Postby Kirt » Sat Mar 13, 2004 2:17 pm

we don't think your liable but the dean/ higher ups of a school or college would advice against it and you could get in trouble from them

because ppl would look at the school and go i don't want my kid here they talk about drugs etc.


if it's a public thing and it is not a thru the school you can talk about how to plant / grow it and there is not a damn thing a cop can do about it you can't get arrested for talking about weed like that,


now when you start tlkaing about how to sell it etc. then it's another story but just talking about how to grow it no
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