RE: Leveling Killets

[Rhuac]

Why would you ever need more than 3 seers in a group? You need more than what 4 healers can do collectively inbetween mezzing, healing, and celerity.

As a note, has anyone noticed I don't assist for shit? I never have and never will... While our assist train/caster pool is knockin em down like dominos I prefer to latch on to that bard or sorc that is in the middle of casting ae mez... but damn I tear up bards...

[killets]

lubu said he'd try today and tomorrow (i can't play much).
I'm up to level 40.2 in 9 hours /played. Hopefully I'll hit 50 by around 18 hours /played.. if I'm lucky.

If you know gundorf's login, it'd be SOO easy to level. ask tav if you can use his SM, since that's the SM i use the most anyways. Helps that it has MoC when someone LDs.

So last night.. i started using a new tactic...
put killets in group. set up macro to cast power field every 8 min on gundorf. afk-to-50. you guys should exploit this. can't do it after next patch.. power field gives you MUCHO AGGRO

I was able to afk from 38-40 last night hehe. much love to Olives

[killets]

Why would you ever need more than 3 seers in a group? You need more than what 4 healers can do collectively inbetween mezzing, healing, and celerity.

As a note, has anyone noticed I don't assist for shit? I never have and never will... While our assist train/caster pool is knockin em down like dominos I prefer to latch on to that bard or sorc that is in the middle of casting ae mez... but damn I tear up bards...

BAD RHUAC!! You seriously hurt the group if you don't assist. I'm not joking. If the MA is picking bad targets, its your MA's fault, and fire him and /ignore him and put him on your gank group black list.

2nd, damage output is ridiculous right now.. so 3 savage/zerk/warrior (warrior ONLY if ToA capped with qui capped plz) + skald should be sufficient to whoop anything. Skald should be the one who is running around attacking unaccounted support. Shaman should be busy rooting, and he better have End4 at least. Disease only if you're sure it won't break mez.

3 healers for the win. Each healer has all 3 types of CC... you gotta be able to find one that your enemy isn't immune to. healers peel off each other/ take care of each other.

because healers rarely have 40 mend, you MUST have 3 healers to support the group when you're taking on 1g vs 2-5groups in this new day and age of ToA overpoweredness.

[Rhuac]

Nah fuck that shit, Lubu isn't doing jack... I called dibs mother fucker. Get off my dick.

I don't have Gun's info nor a macro program.

[Rhuac]

I am the skald numb nuts, ie I run around whailing on 'unaccounted for support.' Plus any MA i've had takes way to freakin long to get a target... by the time they have a target I coulda had a bard to half life, or cleaved a caster in half. I dunno if it's on their end or just lag on assist.

And if none of the 3 healers have 40 mend they need to get A) rearrange groups or B) respec like an intelligent person.

[Bulor]

with a group of PBAE SM's having the extra aggro wont matter.

and i don't think it's gonna effect FoP with the aggroo, only will affect healing ward(which actually should draw aggro like any other healing spells)

[Twystyd]

44 aug healers needed

[Rhuac]

My healer on andred was a tri spec until spread heals came out and the reduction of casting time for rez, then I switched him to 40 mend... I wish I had him here.

[Bulor]

40 mend is pointless..

38 pac is a must.. (you have 2 instant AOEs, and yellow poc) your tank and caster friendly... first plus.

33 mend.. nice solid single target hell (with RAs it can do up to around 1000+)

and you have 2 instants single and group... aswell as a 50 percent rez i belieave, and spread heals level 1 (which is still godly)

then you have 19 aug, you have speed 2, and cel1.. enought to get your tanks by..

thats the perfect healer spec imo... you can do the job of 3 healers if you have to.. becuase as we all know.. there will be sometimes where you just wont have access to certian abilties if a healer is all mend, or all aug... or hell all pac.

[Zoidmeister]

Actually if I had oodles of respec stones I'd like to try 40 mend 36 pac.

In theory I think the 100% rezz, bigger single target heals, and next frigg would offset the loss in some pac.

[killets]

40 mend is pointless..

1) 40 mend is the difference between 650 hp spreadheals and 900 hp spreadheals

2) 40 mend = full rez.. gives healers/casters power (enough for 4-5 spreadheals), and gives full health. Relying on PR for rezzing = for the lose. You're no better than Albs relying on Bunker or SoS. Not to mention after RA review/frontiers, you probably won't spend the spec points on PR anymore if you know whats best.

3) 75% group instaheal. I have this on Lance and umm... if you egg + this badboy, everyone is full health. 1600hp group insta with toa items. Refer to "how i won the game with egg" post by me in other forum. Egg is only uber when you couple with a spreadheal or group insta... otherwise, everyone is one hit to death again anyways. Its worthwhile to be able to heal everyone to full instead of just 66% or whatever.

4) You don't need 3 pac healers in a group. I'm sorry, but that's overkill. I don't think there's any question that a 40mend/36aug healer, or 30 mend/44aug healer is much much more effective partner to 1 or 2 pac healers.

38 pac is a must.. (you have 2 instant AOEs, and yellow poc) your tank and caster friendly... first plus.

This is bad. Why stop at 38 pac. Might as well go for 44 pac. Makes no sense. Your AE Mez will clearly be inferior, and if all you're doing is support/peel CC, then your baseline pac spells are good enough. Having the root helps, but its really not worth trading a 31% or 37% celerity, nor 16% resist buffs for the 2 of the most important resists in the game, or the awesome conc haste buff (unless you guys have aug healer bots which I doubt).

33 mend.. nice solid single target hell (with RAs it can do up to around 1000+)

Spreadheal heals 6 times more HP for only 2 times the power, and casts at almost the same speed. Why spend 100 spec points for the major heal.. use a cookie cutter spec for gank group success.

[killets]

Actually if I had oodles of respec stones I'd like to try 40 mend 36 pac.

In theory I think the 100% rezz, bigger single target heals, and next frigg would offset the loss in some pac.

Also not wise. As uber as Pac is, there is a such thing as pac overkill. Go 36 aug. You'll be a half-ass/support-pac healer with the yellow AE mez, might as well give your group the utility of super celerity, haste buffs, and uber resists.

No disrespect to those who already spec'd only halfway in Pac, but if you want my honest opinion, here it is.

[jaap]

Each group needs 3 healers.

One 40pac one 40 aug one trispec to do all.
Pac focuses on cc and keeping tanks off other healers throwing the occasional spread heal or groupheal every now and then.
Aug does celerity and heals.
Trispec (the spec bulor mentioned)does both, mostly heals though.
Shaman with the disease and roots and hopefully end 5. (may settle for end 4.. if you have to)

skald.
2 savages.
pbt rm, darkness sm, or savage for last spot.

best mid group by far.

40mend really is pointless though, WAY too much drain on mana.
Bliis(the druid i used to play) waws 40 reg for a while, it sucked.
We changed him to nature and it pizzowned.


Btw, pl my skald, kthx.
I wanna play.

[killets]

One 40pac one 40 aug one trispec to do all.
Pac focuses on cc and keeping tanks off other healers throwing the occasional spread heal or groupheal every now and then.
Aug does celerity and heals.
Trispec (the spec bulor mentioned)does both, mostly heals though

Umm.. I play a 40regrowth/36nature druid, and I pwn.

Too much power drain? Whatever.. with my +power% items I have 660 power. I can spam basically 7 spreadheals, each of them with a 3720hp available power pool with the right items. I don't know about you, but a piddly 670-690hp heal cannot keep up with an assist train if you have to. 930hp heal can very easily.

40 aug? Are you nuts? You mean 44 aug then since you value mend so little, you'll at least want the top celerity.

You want 2 44pac healers 1 36+ aug healer. (whether 40 mend 36 aug or 44 aug 30 mend is debateable). Extra aug is a waste. You only need 1 person casting celerity. At 35mend, your group insta gets another 500hp per person, which to ignore is idiocy.

Claiming a need for the insta-mezzes and insta-stuns is such crap. They do nothing vs det tanks, they don't last long enough. Good for stopping pets, maybe, but otherwise, you peel with long mezzes and roots. That's what its about. Only druid instaroots are worthwhile on det tanks, because it lasts a minute.

skald.
2 savages.
pbt rm, darkness sm, or savage for last spot.

For one, you need a berserker or warrior for PF. To leave that out is dumb. 2 det tanks makes for one of the worst assist trains ever btw. A 30mend/regrowth/rejuv healer can keep up with your damage output. You put 3 tanks out there, and the 39 spreadheal can barely keep up. In essense, if you want to include a 3rd healer, you can't include anything else except 3 det tanks.

Sorry, but in a melee gank group, you need to have balanced damage output, or else you're wasting your time. Other realms are better at outlasting middies. If you want to form a different type of gank group, that's fine, I'm just telling you how it is, and how the most successful gank group configurations in the game work today.

[jaap]

If you say so.

I'm only talking from a hibby point of view, never played in a
*EDIT: MID*
8man gank squad cept for the few times crip let me play his rm.

I've done until about 4-5million rp's as a hib (or on mordred), and in my experience the group i said is most valuable for total battles.

Yeah, the savages aren't putting out amssive damage, and i forgot to mention that i would also replace the caster spot with possibly a warrior for slam, but regardless, with 3 healers, you don't need to be killing incredibly fast, you need to get it done.

That's why you have 3 healers.

And i never once mentioned insta stun or mez.

I couldn't tell you exact spec's cause i haven't looked it up too much yet.

Once again, all hib for me.

Soi'll take your word forit.

jaap.