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Postby Twystyd » Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:34 pm

If you could have a class-defining RA what would it be? It would have to be something specific to this class, not an effect already available from an artifact or relic or an ability that another class has.

Try to keep in mind what the class can do and what its intended role is.
Like, no Thanes with stealth, etc.
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Postby QuackMD » Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:07 pm

healers would have AE purge instead of PR...make the AE kinda small so if your group is spread out, it may not hit everyone (like 100-200 units)

but...

i don't play daoc anymore, so with whatever nerfs have happened in the last month and a half, that might be too over powered
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Postby jaap » Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:15 pm

nightshades would have an active ra that gives them +250 weaponskill for 1min :)
or an ra like purge cept it negates all negative poisons, not all bad effects.


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Postby Rhuac » Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:18 pm

Casters should get some form or portal spell/RA, but I don't think it should be unique to one class. Maybe 3 lvls of it. First level teleports you to any keep, 2nd teleports your gorup to any keep, 3rd teleports your group to any keep/relic keep.

As a skald I'd like to see a unique RA such as an insta group HoT... with decent heals... you know we're supposed to be helping our allies in battle with our battle songs... I dunno it's an idea.
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Postby jaap » Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:31 pm

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Postby Twystyd » Sat Jan 31, 2004 6:37 pm

This came off the VN -

Mythic still has issues with groupability for nightshades and I have an idea.

Power transfer...

Give NS a baseline power transfer, and they'll get into groups.

As for infs and sbs...

<shrug> solo on
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Postby Zoidmeister » Sat Jan 31, 2004 7:46 pm

Healers with heal/power fields is a huge group boost now. 1FG's can be effectively 2FG's with the advent of power ward for long seige/defence or PVE. We can hold LR against 2-3x our numbers with this alone as was proven in defences of Bolg/Surs in recent memory.

AE purge sounds great as well for healers - would be nice as an ML7/8 ability for perfector line.

I'd like something like Ameliorating Melodies as well since healing is the win.

For existing abilities I'm aiming for MoC next since once insta's are down and I have aggro the next best thing I'd like is MoC to keep group healed as grp mates are killing.

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Postby Adida » Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:19 pm

Law wrote:This came off the VN -

Mythic still has issues with groupability for nightshades and I have an idea.

Power transfer...

Give NS a baseline power transfer, and they'll get into groups.

As for infs and sbs...

<shrug> solo on


hmmmmmmm isn't a stealth class suppose to be solo and sneaky in rvr? why the hell would anyone pick that to group with people. (sorry to go ot but geeze people think)
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Postby Aenslaed Kasugano » Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:08 pm

Leave healers as is. PR is a good RA. Just needs its cost reduced to 8 (and no changes), or 10 with a fix to that retarded overwrite.

SBs... hard to say. If they finally make 2h Perf worth while, and Left Axe gets some serious fixes with the style review, (and Dragonfang is indeed nerfed into a debuff instead of a stun), then yeah, there might not be any need to change them.

Keep in mind, the worst possible way to balance a class is to give it a unique RA. Just look at alb...
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Postby Bakerton » Sun Feb 01, 2004 11:09 pm

just as an ability skalds should get power song like minsts and bards...we are the only realm with one power regen source...hibs have bards and ments, albs have minsts, sorcs and necros to fuel other casters...how ever power transfer on a night shade? I think that guy was hittin the Image

if nothing else power song would give skalds one more group friendly ability to help with the leveling grind and hell even help soloing
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Postby Tingtong » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:31 am

I think the should give Sb's a PBAE root Ra, and get rid of Bladedance. After all Inf's Have vanish and nightshades have Avoid Pain. I am happy with LA dmg output. We still are the most powerfull melee class for assasin's. The answer isn't AS out there as a Inf's Dragonfang..But it's there. When 99% of midgard assasin's went CB after the nerf because of the talk I remained a SZ and am still happy to this day. You find a lot more people respecing back because the dmg is still good. I do believe LA was overpowered I remember when stab was RR3 and would beat down RR8 inf's and sometimes multiples. It wasn't that I was a better player then them, it was because my dmg output was way too high. If I had a RR3 inf come up and pwned me (Without a Stealth Zerg) I would be pissed too.

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Postby Kirt » Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:12 am

(and Dragonfang is indeed nerfed into a debuff instead of a stun),


i can tell you now you do not want that either the df debuff stacks with the poison debuff

and yes PR to be dropped to 10 points would be very nice

i guess we just have to wait for the style / ra review and hope things work out good for once
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Postby Phineas » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:38 am

Kirt wrote:(and Dragonfang is indeed nerfed into a debuff instead of a stun)


Untrue, Sanya already admitted on several forums that this was a bug on Pendragon and wasn't going live.
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Postby Kirt » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:56 am

umm phin i took that from someone else read above farther :)



and i could care less what that moron sanya says normally whatever she says happens assbackwards anyhow



+ i bet it gets a change in the style review and thats what it was going to be changed to a debuff
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Postby Aenslaed Kasugano » Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:07 pm

hence why I put it in brackets :)
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