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why am i too low?

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:38 am
by Amit
So I hit 55 last night and was surprised to be told that im still too low to play with people doing raids. I just wanted to point out what retarded elitism this is. Almost every day I hear "we need more priests on this raid" yet people are unwilling to take a priest who has basically the exact same spells with only very slight differences. Sure at 60 the heals are slightly bigger and you have a bit more mana but your spells also cost more. As for the stupid arguement "you'll get too much aggro." How does casting smaller spells cause more aggro? Any priest can tell you the smaller the spell the less the aggro. As for differences in armor, they are moot since priests are wearing cloth anyway which doesnt do much. And lastly would you really want to have a group without a healer or wouldnt it be better to at least havce a lower lvl one around?



difference in shields between 55 and 60 180 hp 65 more mana for 60

differnce in flash heal 150 hp 55 more mana

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:45 am
by Sirion
When people say get more aggro I'm not sure they are talking about through healing, I think they are talking about through just being there in general and aggroing other groups. 55 is okay for a priest if they keep their asses in the back. The hardest room to pull in UBRS with a 55 priest that I can think of is the first room because you easily aggro other groups, especially if you get knocked back.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:38 pm
by Amit
so it seems like your saying its aggroing through inexperience, but if you cant go till 60 the 60 is just as likely to wander into aggro.....

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:55 pm
by barbos
He didn't want to play with you so he's using your level as an excuse. :huh:

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:12 pm
by Supreem
no amit actually the lower level you are the bigger your aggro range is for a specific mob. so you are more likely to pull adds since you have a bigger aggro range

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:32 pm
by Winke
Amit dont take it personaly gimp at lvl less than 58 the agro range is huge (didnt we go over this b4?). It's not about elite its about agro range.

Winke

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:36 pm
by Hall
55 is decent for the lower tiered dungeons

but UBRS

Scholo

Strat

if your 55 you need to keep your ass WAY WAY in the back or you will pull insane aggro. Not you personally but the 55 over your head.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:27 pm
by Amit
you are saying that the range at which a mob sees you and attacks you depends on you level? this doesnt sound right to me at all and i would be happy to test it if you want with a lvl 1 new toon and see his aggro range vs my 55. has bliz ever posted that this is true?

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:32 pm
by Oogakuk
It's true. You seem to think that we just don't wanna take you, but it's really just a matter of game mechanics. Ever wonder why you have to stand on top of a level 20 aggro mob for it to attack you? Level difference. Vice versa goes for you being lower than a mob.

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:51 pm
by Winke
Amit its not a conspiracy against you lol, you went to dental school should be easy for you to figure this out :p. Just get to 58 and than your gtg untill than ST baby and BRD.

Winke

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:18 am
by Sirion
Priests are probably good for ubrs at 57 since they stand in the back anyways. But, yes, the range at which a mob will aggro you is dependant upon your level, if you really want to test it, make a level 1, and have some guild mates summon you to a place like Feralas or Burning Steppes. When I was level 52 in Beta I took at level 27 out to see Feralas, and the mobs were aggroing him from halfway to clipping range while he was stealthed. Trust us, it makes a difference.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:48 am
by slythetove
Amit wrote:you are saying that the range at which a mob sees you and attacks you depends on you level? this doesnt sound right to me at all and i would be happy to test it if you want with a lvl 1 new toon and see his aggro range vs my 55. has bliz ever posted that this is true?


Yeah bro this is how aggro works in WoW. Ever notice that as you get higher level for a zone suddenly the mobs don't aggro you until you get closer to them?

It works both ways.

Think of it as "bravery" based on level discrepency. So a level 50 mob is bold vs a level 40 player and will attack from far away. However that same level 50 mob won't attack a 60 player unless the 60 "violates his personal space" and gets real close.

Personally I think it's awesome and very much more realistic than other games where "grey = no aggro / not grey = aggro".

:onfire:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 3:22 pm
by Amit
yeah i tested it in game and you are all right of course. WORST. MECHANIC. EVER.


now most games dont really help casual players play with their power gamer friends with the notable exception of games like city of heroes but this is the first one i have seen where they have done their damndest to make it impossible.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:17 pm
by Saladin
naw it makes sense. cant have lv 30s running around the steps now can we?

helps keep us little kids out of trouble, what with the threat of being eatin by things.

its cool, im in the same boat as you ( though im 49 now)

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2005 9:36 am
by slythetove
Look at it this way Ost, you'll start getting begged to go at 58, and I'll have to wait until 60!!

:onfire: