Bloodwinter Clan

I don't want to air my concerns all over the boards, so thought I'd send this to you individually.

I keep seeing things on this board that says people are leaving and/or waiting for other games to come out to leave, and it concerns me as far as the alliance is concerned. Celest has talked to me and I'm assuming other alliance GM's, about staying with BWC and asking for our committment to the alliance. But when I see a lot of BWC people leaving or talking about leaving, I'm not seeing that same commitment from BWC guild members.

I understand the frustration with NF, but in our guilds case, we're working with it. We're trying to run more with smaller groups that go out and gank rather than zerg towers and keeps, and we've been amazingly successful.
RvR is becoming fun again despite the odds. MDoM and NN have really worked hard at overcoming the rvr obstacles, and it shows. Joshll's post a couple of weeks ago was wonderful, and had some great insight into the rvr situation. However, night after night I see only a few BWC members on. Celest and Joshll are out there doing their best to help hold things together, but that's about it. I feel like they've been left hanging in some ways by other BWC members, and I feel badly for them.

I also feel badly for the guilds of the alliance. It's as if there is a hidden agenda that we're not aware of. People leaving right and left, others saying they're going to. It's very confusing. As a GM of a guild, I feel it's important to keep my guild aware of upcoming changes and possible decisions needing to be made, but the communication from the alliance leader guild is lacking in my opinion. I can't speak for other alliance guilds, but I will say I've heard some rumblings.

In my opinion, BWC needs to make a firm decision about whether it is going to be staying on Merlin and be the great rvr guild it always has been, or leave for other servers. And, whatever decision that is, the entire guild should support it if they're going to be the leaders. This grey area in between staying and going is very difficult for many of us.

Just my two cents. Feel free to share this with other alliance guild leaders. I mean absolutely no disrespect here as I have always loved BWC, so please take it as feedback from one of your smaller guilds. Thanks Gund.

Maj


How do you want me to respond?

bottom line, is some leaders are staying on Merlin and running the alliance.

Other leaders, such as myself are going to lead BWC on Mordred.

Once WoW, comes out, most of us will be gone from DAOC anyways.,

I am hoping Kim will Play Mord with us. Basically ask the only 2 active Merlin members what they want, Mord or Merlin. If they have an interest in Merlin than let Maje know that Josh or Cele will be managing Merlin BWC, end of story. If Kim and Josh leave than BWC can no longer lead Merlin. Seems to many a larger part of BWC is willing to give Mord a shot right now.

Winke

I like Merlin. I've always liked playing here.

Yeah sometimes I get a little bored of Merlin but somehow I always come back.

Maybe because I have literally everything. Game cash, crafters, items, scrolls etc.

I think Mordred will take a while to get used to... You spend 2 weeks in getting 50. Then you need to quest, do some MLs, and get items/sc done in order to PVP. To me, thats like starting up all over again. Personally, I don't mind doing it...The issue with me is the committment. Are you guys willing to spend hours doing MLs? Hours doing quests? Yeah I know Mordred is all PvP but after 2 months, it doesn't feel like PvP. If you guys are FOR SURE, I mean, planning to stay on Mordred for at least 3-4 months, then I'll go. Right now, it just seems like "oh lets dust off our andred toons and play" and I don't want to do that since I've invested months and months on Merlin.

On mordred, animists and necros are pve gods. Almost can do any artifact, any ML encounter, massive xp with just 2 characters.

There are some issues with the alliance on Merlin. Mostly artifact camp stealing with 2-3 alliance guilds. Everything else is ok.

Regarding the guild, I rather have a team to play with. When everyone got sick of merlin, went to alb guin, I rebuilt. When everyone went to Hib Lance, I rebuilt again. Now the announcement of going to Mordred, I don't know if I have the energy to rebuild again, if you know what I mean. If BWC on Merlin is dead, let it rest in peace and let others go on their own way, including myself. Right now the guild is "ok" but the announcement of the entire guild moving to mordred...well, not so good. People are confused and probably want to leave. Totally up for discussion.

Right now I just want to know for sure if there are any longevity plans to be on Mordred. If so, then maybe I'll consider playing my cleric there. If not, I'm not sure.

you know, i quit already so my opinion on this matter may not really matter much, but celes is right, every time you guys do anything on any other server it generally fizzels out in a couple of months. you leave a few people on the server you were planning on moving to, then you guys come back and expect the guild to bend and work at your beck and call, you kick people that you dont know, ask people who the hell they are in chat, but the reason you dont know is because you guys really arent there.

this is the exact reason im spending all my time in WoW beta and none of it in daoc. i love playing with you guys, but you are absolutely too wishy-washy about having any sort of ingame commitments to servers or people. i logged into daoc probably 10 times prime-time after i started playing WoW beta, and there was never more than 5 people online, thats a clencher for quitting, and it always ends up that way, on every server that gets moved to. dont forget, you guys moved to mordred a few months ago "permanently" and then all of a sudden noone played there anymore.

Well, im going to have to agree with celest on this one. After spending months and months trying to get the perfect template for my skald and finally doing it the guild up and leaves. I have a 50 zerker over on mordred and dont mind going there and doing it all over again if the long-term committment is made.

Generally I cant stand Mordred because of all the Aholes out there with the kill on site mentality. UO was a good pvp game because it had consequences to killing without cause. If you guys are serious then ill play my zerker from now on.

Super, you've been gone for months, but yesterday you felt the urge to go on VN and declare that BWC was formally leaving Merlin?

Yesterday I got on my kids 49.5 shaman on Mordred. I check out his equipment and it's all ROG crap. He's got like a level 9 ring and bracelet. I think "ok, if I'm gonna play on Mordred I've gotta get this guy some gear". So I head out to stygia haven to talk to a npc to get a bracelet. 3 times by three different stealthers I get ganked in that town before I could get to the NPC. Nope, I don't think Mordred will be for me. It's too important to have your guild with you AT ALL TIMES there.

I'm currently playing Merlin, but really bummed at the number of FOTM players we had on the server, and in our guild. I may stay, or I may quit, we'll see. I look at Mighty Danes of Midgard and it is still possible for a guild to have fun in DAOC. But I don't know if I see BWC ressurecting or not. There are only like 5-8 of us regulars left.

I'm just upset about having 2-3 alliance guilds leave the alliance over this announcement.

Nex Necis is planning to leave mostly due to us not "punishing" desolate for "attempting to steal" an artifact. Desolate didn't do anything wrong. Maybe the first incident but it was so hard to tell when I wasn't online for 2-3 days. Same with Majesticone and I don't blame her. She wants to have an active /as. I log on everyday to check what's going on and it's just hard to start anything with 3-4 guild members online.

A lot of guilds on Merlin stuck with the whole NF crap. I dislike NF but I stuck with it and adjusted. Its so very easy to 8v8 now, especially with the alb warder zerg moving from point A to point B.

(For Josh -) However, I don't agree with how some Mid Merlin guilds are coping with NF. I understand the issue to be on "offensive" (by going to Albion everyday) but its like "creating a mini-emain" in a tower. I like more variety. I dislike "lets go to albion and farm in a tower"--thats an "emain" mentality. I've just seen Mids ignore the "homeland" thing--especially with new rvr-ers--and told to F off, shut up etc if you aren't doing towers in a specific area. I had hoped that mids would realize to build population you need DF even if it means taking it from underpopulated realm, reinforcement of the "homeland" from time to time (not every single time a tower is taken) but when you know the enemy won't be available (too many times that has been the case and we still rush to get to the "tower" to farm like Albs camping the milegate in OF) and mostly communciation in the BGs (ie what is safe etc)

So where are we now? Are we prepared to dissolve the alliance on Merlin? Are we prepared to close down Merlin?

I don't have the energy to rebuild again with new blood. This is the 4th time. Trust me, if you were in my position, you wouldn't do it after the 2nd time.

I'll let you guys make the decision.

I announced that I AM LEAVING, not BWC, and have told people and they know already that some are staying, some are going, and hell 75% of the population of our guild has quit/cancelled, and are gone. Not a surprise there.

I will reply to Maj what you have posted.

Well then I rather the rest of us go into other guilds like wyrd, mdom or etc and dissolve the alliance.

No point in working on a guild in a dead game in a few months.

Super, I must admit, Cele is right. I am in the same situation as Cele. Cash, crafters, etc. Now, if the whole guild moves, then I'm up for it. But, I'd rather stay at Merlin with everyone else. The RvR has gotten a lot better here. I've been with Guild groups and grouped with other guilds. Things are changing for the better.

The alb zerg is still huge. But, I think NF is wearing out on the "PvE' albs. The mass zerg is smaller. I'm not saying they all won't come out for a RR defense, but, thats what I see. Rather than moving right away, try Merlin again. I'm on Merlin as much as I can be right now. But with summer, boating, weekends busy etc., it's hard for me to log on atm consistantly.

If you decide to move, thats fine. I will play there sometimes. A change is good now and then. But then BWC will be split among two different servers. For now, it seems that Merlin will die first unfortunatly. People need to play NF for a period of time to get used to it and get to know it.

That being said. BWC had a slow time last summer also. Then in the fall, a lot of people came back. The game was fun again. I don't want to be too hasty to make a decsion such as this.

My choice will be to play Merlin for now. I know it seems like I play my hunter a lot, but, I miss grouping with my SM. But there are times that we can't feild a whole group. So, I hunt.

Garh. I'm rambling. I hope you all understand where I'm coming from.

GAH. I'm confused still. Trust me, I'm not blowing this up in my mind. I'm not psyco, nor will this consume me the entire weekend while on the boat. Alchohol will do that.

I swing back and forth. I love BWC merlin. But the idea of starting fresh again is kinda fun. I dunno. Josh, there will be a lot of people there to help with getting gear. So don't fret. Cele, I'm sure if we left the alliance, we could get into another alliance on merlin. One that will understand what our move is about, or that were spread too thin to run our own. Not too big a deal. You know enough good peeps.

Anyway's, thats my new thought. Wait 15 more minutes for the new one to come.

Keab you Flip Floper please join the Kerry campaign.

Winke

I would like to remain tagged BWC.

But if we are not a very active guild I don't think we can be a viable alliance leader. I would rather then that we be a smaller guild in someone elses alliance. My pride has no problem with that. That said, I'm not sure another alliance is out there that would be a good fit. Danes/Wyrd perhaps, but I think that bridge may be burnt.

Whatever, I'm not ready to give up mid merlin. Even if my account expire, I can't guarantee I won't come back if Mythic fixes things. Will BWC still be here? Even if I was the only member I'd prefer that over joining another guild just to have a home. But if you all want to disolve BWC because many of the core members are permanently gone, fine, I'll figure something out. Things change.

I can understand where keabit is coming from

I was more than a little interested in mordred when the opportunity came up, but I have been reminded over the last couple of days why I left pvp servers to begin with. Every hand is against you and It ends up being way to much work. (and I'm not that good of player to begin with so no big loss )

That and I've put alot of work into my hunter in a fairly short time.

I am going to stay on Merlin and leech off Josh's RP farming

I can understand that Joshll. I'll keep my inactive toons under the BWC tag as well in case I ever go back to DAoC. I would rather play in what I consider (like we all do) our guild then join another for enlarged chat.