Recent Exodus

[Twystyd]

Emjay I understand and Kairma (wasnt handled the best but she had a few issues) but now Brutalaxe left as well? Doh! LOL, wtf is going on my peeps -

[Crippler]

Dont know about Brutalix, he just seemed to be a fallower or Kairma... Kairma = Drama queen and clique. She decided she wanted to be TDA's bitch even though they suck horribly now. They tried to give some BS exuse in /gu like they could find groups with them or something, but if they didn't seclude themselves from the rest of the guild they'd have no problem doing that, ever. Not like they ever asked either.

[Twystyd]

I figured it was something gay like that. Well, let's just hang tight through a little shit storm. Everything will be back to normal when Super get's back. From the looks of things BWC is having trouble even claiming a keep much less lead an alliance. This is a great time if any to drop the /as lead if we want.

[Rexfelis]

First of all, Kairma is nobody's bitch. She is as good a player and GL as they come. BWC is made up of some of the best players in the game and the best are usually strong individualists. Free Spirits with out of the box thinking and strong opinions. Sometimes we need to look stop and remember this fact, before we speak in certainties and ultimatums.
I don't think any of us are happy about Kairma and Brutalix leaving us.
It is certainly not going to make us a better guild.
We play this game for fun, excitement and comraderie. Our play styles should be free of criticism, as long as we are always Guild First, and I know that those two were for certain.
I for one will miss Kairma in the guild. I just plain like her, and I know alot of us feel the same way.
Let us try not to cut off our noses to spite our face.

[Crippler]

Well Rexfelis, many of us would have to disagree with you on the fact she wasn't a TDA bitch. This past weekend they've one nothing but fill in their spots, or fallow their groups. TDA doesn't fallow anyone, they do their own thing and only let people join them if they need bodies to plug holes. I know Celest had a talk with her being with TDA, and how TDA used to treat this guild like trash, but now that they dont have The Fellowship to plug holes and play group2 they needed a new guild to do so.. and guess who they chose.

[Bulor]

well, everyone has their time.. and their own path.. i don't understand why brut left.. he always had an active part in groups.

but oh well, i'll just /slap him everytime i see him now =) until he comes back to the proper state of mind

[Rexfelis]

No one disliked the Original TDA (this is not the TDA I knew in much more than Name, except for Lukas and one or two others), more than I. Victer was a low life and some of the others were a collection of assholes and account theives ( I know from experience).
However, if someone discovers a way of having fun, let them do there thing as long as it does not effect the good of our Guild.
If she was enjoying her recent stlye of play, the best to her.

Where are the posts about Emjay's playing stlye?? Now that was outragous, and she should have been asked to leave way before she quit.

Let us not be bitter.

[Eirene]

Regarding Emjay.

Emjay spoke to me about 3 months ago about her decision to re-form her own guild. It was brought up again 2 weeks ago. I still group with Emjay and her guild has been a good alliance member now.

Regarding Kairma.

Where do I start...

Granted Kairma is good leader and very knowledgable of the game, as she was a former GM/officer on Albion Tristan. However, lately I didn't feel that she was upholding her officer duties here with BWC. Understandingly, she had her own group and she filled guildmates in her group (mostly Brutalix) when she felt it was necessary. There were times I requested her group to come defend the homeland. One hour later, she responds "Sorry I had my guild chat and officer chat turned off."

I really don't mind guild members going to emain and running with groups but given the history with TDA and BWC, it wasn't going to be a good mix. Indeed, this is not the same TDA but I'm still amused by the tells from Shivas and other TDA members that did everything in their possible power to get BWC out of emain early on.

I spoke to Kairma about the history between the guilds and she said "thats before my time."

So the incident regarding her leaving...
I requested her to claim DC, while some of us were defending in homeland. She told me twice that she could. However, TDA claims the keep. This wasn't a ninja claim like Ravenous did to BWC the week before. She says "I only had 5 guildmates here with me". Then I reemed her about how she can invite to the guild etc. Nevertheless it got really ugly, I guess I'm partially to blame because I lost my temper. So she left guild. I asked her why and she says "there's too much pressure in BWC". Some bogus excuse.

Granted I really liked her. She lead groups well but there was too many clashes between her personality and everyone else.


Regarding Brutalix. Nothing but a follower. I told him that we respected him and highly regarded in guild. He didn't say anything. Just simply a follower. Now he's guilded in TDA. Imagine that.

[Crippler]

Well, the fact Celestrial asked Kairma to claim at keep in Hibernia frontier the other day for BWC and she had TDA claim it does affect our guild. The fact Celestrial wanted to do an dun Ail raid the other night and Kairma ignored her tells for an hour- two hours thus killing our guild raid shows other as well

[Joshll]

Aww man - this is getting mischaracterized. Drama, drama, drama
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About the DC thing

I told Celest that night I thought she was being harsh on Kairma and I still think so. Kairma's 5 peeps were running in an emain zerg lead by Chizel. Yes Kairma was following TDA, but Chizel lead the effort to retake DC. The whole freaking zerg went to take DC and the zergs plans were for TDA to claim. Celest was elsewhere, heard this, and told Kairma not to let that happen and that she had to claim DC for BWC. TDA ended up claiming the keep and Celest got mad at Kairma....

Was Kairma supposed to announce to the zerg that BWC wasn't going to let TDA claim even though that was the plan? Great PR move that would be. Or were we supposed to ninja it like Ravenous? Great PR move that would be too. That whole thing was a mess.
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And I don't really blame Kairma for leaving. She took some shit in this guild - some deserved, but some not.

Lets get one thing straight - I love Celest and if I gotta pick between the two gals I'll take Celest. And maybe it will be best with Kairma gone as we can lose some of this drama. But I liked Kairma, I still do, and I'll still group with her. Just like Emjay.

[SuperHelix]

Trim is cool

Miss me?

Well one more week in SF, then in Austin starting next week.

You won't see me on probably all week and partly next week.

People come and go, doesn't make them assholes or bitches, its just the fact. Hang in there and enjoy the time you do have together.

[barbos]

You'll always be our bitch super...

[Twystyd]

People come and go, doesn't make them assholes or bitches, its just the fact.

Well said Fuckface. Now if we can only get rid of Hall ~

[Hall]

Fuck you im joining LA

[Crippler]

LA?? no one disses my bish Hall >.<