So wtf is this shit?

[Hall]

"I want to play with my friends, no matter what class, even Hall"

That hurt my soul

[Farfar]

lol winke! Enter is your friend.

[Supreem]

I know my opinion doesn't mean jack shit. But I believe that BWC will return to its full glory when NF comes out. Right now people are taking breaks (sick of emain treadmill) and doing PVE shit to get their toons better equipped for RVR. I have seen BWC merlin have its ups and downs... I've been in it since before the CoE merge. I remember there was a time when the guild had been completely deaded for a few weeks/months (when pvp servers came out) and eventually people came back and BWC regained its former power. I am confident that BWC will reemerge as a great power on Merlin. And this will probably happen when NF is released. So I do agree that we have hit a low. But that is no reason to leave us or quit the game because very soon we will be number 1 again. my 2 cents.

[SuperHelix]

Bulor, you would be amazed.

Winke, use spacers.

Farfar, I miss you.

Supreem, deaded, good word.

Flight to Vegas in 1 hour, WOOHOO!

[Keabit Guinness]

I'm in Vegas atm, so I don't know what went down. But imo, the core BWC will always be here. People leave, comeback all the time. Hell, even I left Merlin a couple times to try new things i.e. Mordred. But I always comeback.

The core is here. I don't care about 8v8 people. NF will change the whole make-up of 8v8. It will mainly be keep warfare.

Also, I rolled my hunter in preperation of the slow summer months. I won't be on as much do to the weather, summer activities etc. But, I still consider my SM as my main char and will usually , log him on when he is needed for RvR groups or PvE farming.

I'm rambling, sorry.

[killets]

in defense of lubu, id like to note that has little tact imo, but he did fill a void. if it wasn't for him, it would be mostly pugs imo. he's grown up to be a lot more critical of people's play lately, but that're because we were losing to groups we shouldn't have. don't misinterpret it though d, even if he was whining like a bitch, he has much much respect for you still. whenever i lost a mez, he'd be like, "d would have gotten that mez. you suck rich."

i think he just had a lot of pent up anger that he'd never have a group available when he logged in, so he had to do it himself. bwc was slowly going the way of CoE imo, where long absences of a leader with initiative was making people lose interest in the game. i do respect lubu for stepping up and getting people together, but i wasn't there to see how he dug himself a hole.

anyways, even though lubu might have difficulties expressing himself, hopefully we can all hold hands again and be a big family

have fun in vegas. wish i were there.

rich

[Bulor]

^^ your fucking gay, die

[killets]

^ You're in need of an ass whoopin!!!
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[Naturalis]

i dont really see what the problem is. i play with lubu when we do 8man.. and that 8man is all bwc unless we dont have 8 on. yea, i agree sometimes we cant invite all guildies, like having 2 shamans or just having 1 healer in group and 7 tanks. We always seem to set the group up to be as successful as it should be. Nobody likes to play to lose. And even if there are extra bwc, we almost ALWAYS have them follow us with another skald..

Us rvr'ing is a win win situation.

[Zoidmeister]

/wave Natz

Supreem hit it on the head.

Vegas no go here due to B.S. with waiting for two contracts to sign for work which was supposed to happen this week but is now pushed to next week.

Have fun since that's what it's all about ... hell that was our motto in COE on Andred let's live it here on Merlin.

[Greak]

i thought the mott was calling me a spy or something.....

[Twystyd]

But imo, the core BWC will always be here.

Keabit and Supreem speak for most of us old schoolers and enough has been said. IMO drama queens can go fuck themselves. I love you all ~

[Naturalis]

i dont understand why the 8v8 people can go fuck themselves. its 8 bwc in the group.

and as for drama queens, i love D, but he was just having a bad day that day. We were just running around with 10 bwc actually, skald and antoehr bwc out of group, and D was in ascendency group. Ascendency would fight shux, and win.. then when we lost to shux , D would say bwc sucks and talk shit on the whole guild in /as . Thats what got us mad in the first place. We did not alienate him, nor did we start the drama. He kept saying how much bwc sucks in /yell's and in /as. Thats what i think mostly got the 10 bwc rvr'ing that day, mad.

we might not be as good as ascendency's gank group, but we're trying to be as good as our classes let us be. And we include most bwc that want to play considering there's only like 10 usually on.

Lubuu did not start the drama, nor did khaj.

The core will always be here of course. But lots of the core also play the stealth solo game.

When i did say i'd rather have a savage in group other than a warrior, big deal. I say that, but we still invite Winke and Calib. We NEVER boot a guild warrior for an out of guild savage anyway.

Main point is, we try to kill hard groups of hibs and albs with just 1 group of bwc, and why shouldnt we? We're all good players. We try it WITH BWC. Some of you guys that are talking up in this thread play with Ascendency's 8man rather than try to play with whatever BWC's are online. So dont be starting shit when we try to play with our own members. Not only do you not play with BWCs 8man, you join another guilds 8man, then talk shit on our very own guild group. Thats not good imo.

And we always have room for g2 because of our extra skalds..

[Twystyd]

You know my stance on it Nat...I stayed out of it and will continue too. Drama queens in my post were not aimed at anyone. I like the 8v8 crew and I like D. Honestly, from what I did see D looked out of control and yes we should have muzzled him on /as that was pretty lame. I have no lasting judgments here I just like to tell people to go fuck themselves is all ~

[SuperHelix]

UM COUGH...That is complete Bullshit.

I have sacrified for this guild, my toon, my time, and some of my life, while others have profited at my belittling, so don't go off like I was having a "bad" day.

This guild started getting a I am too leet for you stance over the past few months, and that is Bullshit too.

That night:

Actually Lubu and Khajo both started it.

I did nothing until they did.

The past 2 weeks they have alienated me from any groups at all. Never ask me, and if I do ask, say they are full.

That night, they said nothing again, even when I asked everyone.

Then in /gu They started saying, go take keeps OVER and OVER. After the 4th time, and me being out in Odins for 45 minutes BY MYSELF with a fucking ram at AMF, playing with stealthers, I asked Emjay to join, I joined them after 45 minutes of them running around.

That's 1.5 hours of time. During that time Lubu specifically asked in /os and /gu for Lieph to play his healer, not me.

So I said fuck that... I joined Ascendancy and we went to Emain.

I saw you guys running around and not one word, except for go take keeps, over and over, then in /as after we would die to Albions.

Then the fun started. Lubu and Khajo kept pushing in /gu and Khaj said to why don't you do it, just quit BWC, I dare you, twice. So I did, then I started berading /as with the reality of the situation.

I don't back down from anyone, but I didn't fucking start the mess. They have been trying to run leet crowds and not inviting certain bWC members as well as not helping with ANYTHING for the guild but themselves.

Fuck that as well. I bring fun to the game, so one night we go to ALbion and take keeps and pharm 25k from them. People had fucking fun. Whether its in emain, home or Albion, its about the people, not about the fucking rps. Shit I have been 25k from RR9 for 4 weeks, who cares. I care about playing with friends and making sure they have a good time. Killing enemies is fun, but not about everything for me.

If you have a different stance on that, then you maybe 1. Shouldn't be in the guild, or 2. Tell me not to rejoin.

I won't if you don't want me, that's fine, just don't float my boat with BS, tell me how it is, or suck it up and fucking accept the truth that this is a game, and getting your name in spam is all you fucking care about.

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