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Sorry man, you guys were bashing on us long before we were bashing on you back. You are the perfect example of the real problem this guild has. When did you stop playing DAoC? If you weren't around for much of Merlin, then you missed over half the life of this guild, and what was, most likely, the biggest growth it had the entire time it's been up and running.
The funny thing is, D stopped leading BWC on Merlin when /level 20 and 30 came out and we (myself included) made Scourn on Guin. We level'd to 50, the Scout was boring to me so I went to Mordred, they played a bit there, then went to Lance. Then D came back for a month or so, then decided to play on Mordred. I mean sure, he may have been on every so often here and there in the meantime, but he wasn't the person that kept the guild going on Merlin. Kim and Josh were the GMs of BWC on Merlin, and over the entire course of the stay on Merlin we didn't lose as many people as you want to say.
BWC lost more people moving to WoW than it did in it's entirety on Merlin. Kim straight up said on the officer forums that she did not want to lead in WoW, because she had too much shit going on IRL to do it. D obviously didn't want to play the game, but he lead the guild the way he saw fit the little bit of time he was on. He let people like Mexal and Sansa stay in the guild, dispite 90% of the guild hating them, and their public bashing of the guild's officers, which in turn caused the initial dissention in BWC on WoW. Then, without telling anyone in the guild, and perhaps mentioning it to Hall and Kim, he merged with a 50ish person guild. Things like that, combined with an open door recruitment policy are the reasons that BWC in WoW failed, noone knew each other. And if you were there to see it, then you already know it, and you can't honestly blame it on either Kim or Hall, because anyone with the slightest bit of common sense knows that that's exactly what the problem with BWC on WoW was.
And lets not talk about rolling with another guild here honestly. Ting bounced between Tingtong Inc. and BWC on his active characters enough that I can't be seen in any different a light than him where that's concerned. If you are going to claim that I'm not BWC, then he's not either, and neither of us should have a say in this conversation whatso-ever.
Now then, as far as bitching about the name goes, I don't know what the agreement was "supposed" to be on the names. From what Kim and Hall told me, we were suppose to use Bloodwinter Clan, and you guys were suppose to use The Bloodwinter Clan. I don't know, nor do I honestly care, but the guys decided that since we wanted to have a more fun attitude with the guild as a whole, we would take a joking name instead of a serious one.
I've already said in this thread that I don't care if you are guilded with Affrix or not. It doesn't matter to me. But when he left in WoW, he was talking shit about everyone in the guild both from Merlin, and from WoW, and told everyone that he used BWC to get what he needed and didn't care about the guild at all, and mentioned that Ting was his boy, and was doing the same thing. When Hall confronted Ting about this, he said that him and Affrix weren't friends like that, and that he was pissed off that his name even came up, you can scroll through the DoG forums to read the conversation, I'm sure it's still on the first or second page. So the person that insulted the guild as a whole, is now allowed back in? That's what pissed some people off.
The easy mode comment was made in joke by someone in response to this thread. But we can't make jokes. Only you guys can make jokes. When we make jokes we are being serious and it's offensive and we think we are better than you, even though you guys started a stupid ass thread like this in the first place. Once offense was taken more of the same old shit talking started going off, but it's now all our fault.
Here's the kicker, I'm not above apologizing, and in fact, since Ting's tone has changed from asshat to seriousness, I will apologize to him, because the shit never should have gotten to that point in the first place.
Edit: Already edited the end because your last post is far more serious, and I'll come straight up and apologize for the comments I made about you as well. I don't know you or what you did in BWC, so I shouldn't have made the claims in the first place.
The funny thing is, D stopped leading BWC on Merlin when /level 20 and 30 came out and we (myself included) made Scourn on Guin. We level'd to 50, the Scout was boring to me so I went to Mordred, they played a bit there, then went to Lance. Then D came back for a month or so, then decided to play on Mordred. I mean sure, he may have been on every so often here and there in the meantime, but he wasn't the person that kept the guild going on Merlin. Kim and Josh were the GMs of BWC on Merlin, and over the entire course of the stay on Merlin we didn't lose as many people as you want to say.
BWC lost more people moving to WoW than it did in it's entirety on Merlin. Kim straight up said on the officer forums that she did not want to lead in WoW, because she had too much shit going on IRL to do it. D obviously didn't want to play the game, but he lead the guild the way he saw fit the little bit of time he was on. He let people like Mexal and Sansa stay in the guild, dispite 90% of the guild hating them, and their public bashing of the guild's officers, which in turn caused the initial dissention in BWC on WoW. Then, without telling anyone in the guild, and perhaps mentioning it to Hall and Kim, he merged with a 50ish person guild. Things like that, combined with an open door recruitment policy are the reasons that BWC in WoW failed, noone knew each other. And if you were there to see it, then you already know it, and you can't honestly blame it on either Kim or Hall, because anyone with the slightest bit of common sense knows that that's exactly what the problem with BWC on WoW was.
And lets not talk about rolling with another guild here honestly. Ting bounced between Tingtong Inc. and BWC on his active characters enough that I can't be seen in any different a light than him where that's concerned. If you are going to claim that I'm not BWC, then he's not either, and neither of us should have a say in this conversation whatso-ever.
Now then, as far as bitching about the name goes, I don't know what the agreement was "supposed" to be on the names. From what Kim and Hall told me, we were suppose to use Bloodwinter Clan, and you guys were suppose to use The Bloodwinter Clan. I don't know, nor do I honestly care, but the guys decided that since we wanted to have a more fun attitude with the guild as a whole, we would take a joking name instead of a serious one.
I've already said in this thread that I don't care if you are guilded with Affrix or not. It doesn't matter to me. But when he left in WoW, he was talking shit about everyone in the guild both from Merlin, and from WoW, and told everyone that he used BWC to get what he needed and didn't care about the guild at all, and mentioned that Ting was his boy, and was doing the same thing. When Hall confronted Ting about this, he said that him and Affrix weren't friends like that, and that he was pissed off that his name even came up, you can scroll through the DoG forums to read the conversation, I'm sure it's still on the first or second page. So the person that insulted the guild as a whole, is now allowed back in? That's what pissed some people off.
The easy mode comment was made in joke by someone in response to this thread. But we can't make jokes. Only you guys can make jokes. When we make jokes we are being serious and it's offensive and we think we are better than you, even though you guys started a stupid ass thread like this in the first place. Once offense was taken more of the same old shit talking started going off, but it's now all our fault.
Here's the kicker, I'm not above apologizing, and in fact, since Ting's tone has changed from asshat to seriousness, I will apologize to him, because the shit never should have gotten to that point in the first place.
Edit: Already edited the end because your last post is far more serious, and I'll come straight up and apologize for the comments I made about you as well. I don't know you or what you did in BWC, so I shouldn't have made the claims in the first place.
DAoC > WoW
Call me sir.
Call me sir.
Well, I say we do what we should have done months and months ago, and re-vamp the entire guild. From top down. Actually organize ourselves, set up standards and rules and exceptions. I'll PM Hall and set something up.
We'll figure out who the leaders will be and go from there.
Lets drop this whole bwc drama shit for now, and let it go, both playing our own realms.
If you kill me in RvR. And, give me an @tell. I will laugh and not get mad. Nor, if you guys roll us, I'd want to hear about it. Competition is good, as long as its healthy.
We'll figure out who the leaders will be and go from there.
Lets drop this whole bwc drama shit for now, and let it go, both playing our own realms.
If you kill me in RvR. And, give me an @tell. I will laugh and not get mad. Nor, if you guys roll us, I'd want to hear about it. Competition is good, as long as its healthy.
Casper, Svenegal, Tassadar, Maurs, Maurier, Perigrine, Du Maurier ( I go by these names).
My shit tastes like corn.
My shit tastes like corn.
I want to hear what Law thinks as well. He will always be the GM of BWC. Its his baby, sad fact is he just doesn't play enough games. Although, he is still a great GM with a level head.
Casper, Svenegal, Tassadar, Maurs, Maurier, Perigrine, Du Maurier ( I go by these names).
My shit tastes like corn.
My shit tastes like corn.
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Beratuul wrote:I want to hear what Law thinks as well. He will always be the GM of BWC. Its his baby, sad fact is he just doesn't play enough games. Although, he is still a great GM with a level head.
Will do sir. After work that is...
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In the end. Nobody was or will ever be as uber as Phish "Da Cheese" Bone the Bonedancer from Merlin. 
Btw, I play a Theurgist on the same server as Kim and honestly I could care less if I have a tag on or not as long as I am having fun with some BWC peeps. Yall keep kicking me out of the damn guild anyway when I miss a few days to that thing called REAL LIFE!
Anyway, yeah, from a neutral standpoint on this whole thread as I actually sat here and read it all. Yall seriously need to squash the nonsense, have fun owning each other and keep it in private if you wanna trash talk. You have way to many sentimentals in BWC to do it any other way.
PS. I am not sentinmental and suffer major verbal abuse from Kim on a daily basis in person opposed to your small headaches here in game. She is not nearly as mean to you guys as she is to me and that's no bullshit. But she is also the coolest damn lady I could wish for when I don't piss her off. So I get the best of both worlds I guess.
Btw, I play a Theurgist on the same server as Kim and honestly I could care less if I have a tag on or not as long as I am having fun with some BWC peeps. Yall keep kicking me out of the damn guild anyway when I miss a few days to that thing called REAL LIFE!
Anyway, yeah, from a neutral standpoint on this whole thread as I actually sat here and read it all. Yall seriously need to squash the nonsense, have fun owning each other and keep it in private if you wanna trash talk. You have way to many sentimentals in BWC to do it any other way.
PS. I am not sentinmental and suffer major verbal abuse from Kim on a daily basis in person opposed to your small headaches here in game. She is not nearly as mean to you guys as she is to me and that's no bullshit. But she is also the coolest damn lady I could wish for when I don't piss her off. So I get the best of both worlds I guess.
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