Bloodwinter Clan

ok this is what happen on this raid from my side ..........................

we har 5 items one of them stone one where a hammer i startet whit hammer

non roll on it after yell and some whiting then i gav it up to shammy and healer roll ....
after i won the hammer to my shammy a thane hammer spec fund out she like to roll on hammer .. ok she had a lower roll then me but i just had giv roll up on stone and yell when some ppl start to say she is thane and hammer spec i desidet to giv this hammer to the thane and some ppl didten got there roll on stone at that time then 2 think it where hammer and ffa but if it where hammer then ffa is at end .. i had say grats me in cg for the hammer but giv it to the thane when i see she roll on it so do i care who the .... get items ...... if i do i had keep the hammer ok like 5 mins later after telling and giveing the stone to one in myth trump start saying i cheat whit loot and rolls then him and one more roll 5 mins after the roll startet on stones the stone where alrdy giveing away and i had say it in cg 3 mins b4 it and say who had got the hammer too

trhen we had a medium shald we all know warr use large but only trumps bid on it and got it even after he had pissed me really off

ppl need to start to stop send tells make alotta says about non releter stoff when random is going on i cant read send tells back and have a random going on same time non can do that

and i am not only raid leader who decide to make raids invites only or guild only after some random ppl on raid whine tomuch under random and make the raids horroble to be on

i needed to say this i will send a tell to the guildleader in bloodwinter later today when i have time and ask wtf is going on whit this trump guy after this raid i where in tells whit brutalix then trump didten like to tell me who the guildleaders in blood where so maby he have somting to hidde

Henri u know i love ya like my sista.... no one can ever change that... as i made a post in here... this here is a sad storry to hear... but we gotta get it out and get on with it. dont let a little thing here stop a Great Raid Leader getting banded from ouer alliance's Tg raid's woulden be fair

This is a very difficult post to get through. I realize you (at least you better not) don't speak english as your primary language. But I'm still unsure what the issue was about.

You won the hammer, then someone who needed it more rolled later, and you gave it to them. Then something about rolling for a stone? You had the stone, people rolled for it, and someone won it, then 5 minutes later trump and someone else tried to roll for the stone, but you said it had already been given out?

Is that what the issue is?

If you post it again in Danish or whatever your language is, I'll get someone to translate it for me, so I can understand WTH HAPPENED.

Ta.

There are two GM's in BWC Law (the good looking one) and Super (Gundorf on these forums). Feel free to PM us with any trouble you may have. Your English is better then my Dutch. I should also point out Candide has a lot of GM'ing under his belt and along with many "officers" can handle (although only half are still in DAoC) such issues if you would rather deal with someone you know.

Sleyn
Candide
Ugnot the Second
Hyla
Joshll
Eirene

can all be reached as well and are still DAoC active.

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the hammer had 0 bids from usere class and it got given up to shammy and healer roll .. i say grats me in cg and 1 min after the thane roll on it and mian time i had whitet in cg stone roll now and made a yell the thane roll b4 i say stone roll on the hammer and to not have to many say it where wrong i won the hammer i didt giv the thane the hammer and tell it in cg then i where looking on the rolls and made my roll on stone and where asking if huzzai had won it and he had highst roll on it and i didt giv him it and 3 mins after some tells some cg chatting and says the 2 where rolling on stone that had been giveing away 3 mins ago

i will now take it in danish

jeg tror vi hade en sword vi rollede 1st og den gik fin igennem ingen problemer der saa var der en hammer med 6 til hammer det var en 2hs hammer saa jeg sage hammer spec roll for den og yellede den fri til roll jeg spurgte i cg om der ikke var nogle der ville byde paa den da ingen hade rolled paa den ennu .
ingen svarede saa jeg ga den op til shammy og healer rolls i cg og yellede
der var en healer og mig der rollede paa den hammer jeg vandt den saa skrev jeg i cg at vi gik over til stone roll og levede en /y og kikkede op fra tastatur og saa en mere hade rollet paa hammer og kikkede paa hvad folk hade sagt og ku se de ville have deres guildi skulle have den hammer da thanen var hammer spec og da jeg hade vondet det synter jeg at det ku vaere ligemaget at hun rullede forsent for det var jo kun mig det gik ud over at jeg ikke fik den hammer
jeg sage i cg jeg hade givet hende den hammer og folk kom ned igen og saa rollede jeg paa stone selv ventede en min spurgte i cg om huzzai var vinner med 74 i roll og det svarede folk ja til og jeg ga ham stonen og gik vider ded et shild der var dropped men den kom ikke til roll de neste 10 mins eller mere da trump ville vide hvad der var men stone roll han have buggede mig i say og tells med den hammer og ikke set vi rollede for den stone saa rollede han og en til ca 3 mins maby 4 mins efter den stone var givet til huzzai som kommer fra myth og ja den siste der rollede fik en hojer nummer med jeg vil alsaa ikke lave om paa fordi 2 sidder og snakker om hammer i 5 mins og finder du af de kom forsent til toget det der var snyd her var nok mere at folk ikke fulgte med i cg og rollede 5 mins efter den stone var givet vaek fordi de lige skulla snakke mere om en hammer der ikke kom dem hvem

jeg vil med glaede tage med paa et raid trumpen leader og lave en marco med en tell til raidleader /send trumps what is the stats on it
og sende den for hvar drop og sende til han uafbrudt mends han randommer ting for at se hvordan han ville tage det man da han nok ikke gider lave bare et tg raid for at se hvordan det er at leade et raid mener jeg ikke han skal svine folk til unden grund som han gor

jeg traekker mig fra DD som tg raid leader jeg har leadet mit siste raid idag med non guiildis folk
saa maa det vaere op til folk som trumps at lave et raid imorgen jeg gider ikke blive svinet til af folk som trump der kun ka whine evig og altid
min tid er mere kostbar end at bruge 7 til 8 timer pr tg raid og hore paa det lort folk smider mig i hovet sommetider

Takker dem der har send mig takke tells efter raids dem er jeg maget glade for at faa de styre alt det er en stor lon at faa naar man ikke vindet et item paa de raid man laver selv
btw lolitta sendte mig et takke tell paa dette raid hvor trump beskylte mig at fuske med loot men hun vandt jo osse det 1st loot en sword til sin sb kommer jeg til at taenke paa
trump fik et shild en thane fik sin hammer huzzai fik stone siste loot var en dye husker ikke helt hvem der gilk til

men hvis jeg virklig var som trump siger .. ville jeg saa ikke beholde den hammer og sige hun rollede langt tid forsendt og rollede lower end mig ? og beholde den selv ? her er det hvis mig der blev fukked hvis nogle gjore og takken for at vaere fair er alle vil fukke en

hyg jer med at over saette det btw jeg er fodt ordblind jeg har aldrig hart english i skolen elelr tysk jeg ka laese tysk og forstaar alt hvad de siger paa tysk jeg ser en del english film og derfra og fra internet har jeg mit english saa jeg forstaar godt nogle han porblemer med min skriven

i was on the tg raid spoken of and would like to say a few things ...

the raid itself went really well ...we had a few problems with ppl not wanna lissent but nothing more than usally.
i had heard a lot of rumors about henriettes lotto after her raids took 3-4 times longer than normal but as it was the first time i was in tg with her as leader i couldnt put my finger on some specifik flaws in her way of doing the loot.

just wanna sad that ppl should have turned down for the spam and up for their lisentning when the lotto began, cause then there might ben a bigger chance one could se what we where bidding for

think the biggest problem here where ppl just where confused over when we where bidding for each pice of loot thus making the whole lotto kinda confusing.

as always didnt i win any loot, but i know my time shall come
and i hope theres a place for me in your invite raids henriette cause i think u do a as good job as some of the best tg raid leaders i know in the game e.g. glimi and sleyn

Ok translate off Henriettes post...

I think we have a sword we lotto on 1st its diten make problem, next there where a 2h hammer whit 6 in hammer skill, i am say in /cg all whit hammer spcc roll, but noon roll fore it, i am say in /cg healer/shammy can roll fore it, there where a healer +my self whom roll fore it, and i am win it, then i am say in /cg we move to next item a stone make a /y and look up and see another have make a roll on hammer, and look at what people have sayid, and see they want they guildy too have the hammer fore the Thane where hammer spec, but its where a late roll, but i gave up the hammer too the Thane, i say in /cg i given up the hammer too the Thane, and people relax agin, after i say i given up the hammer.

Next we roll fore a stone Me and Huzzai where winner whit a 74 in roll, people agree on that and i gave Huzzai the stone, and move to next item, a shield that diten come on a roll fore next 10 min or more fore Trump want too know bout stone, he spam me whit priate tell's bout that hammer, and he missed roll fore stone, then he and another roll 3 - 4 min after the stone where given too Huzzai, who are from same Guild as me < Myth > and yes last person whom roll fore stone got a higher number, but i missed it fore all that spam, bout that hammer and roll came after i given up the stone, people need pay attention when lotto, if u miss the train tuff luck pay attention when lotto, and a roll 5 min after item are given away are a bit late, all that talk but that hammer really mess this up, lisen too RL and don't spam bout old and gone loot.

I am love to go on a raid whit Trump as leader, and spam him whit private tell's bout what stats, what stats on that fore every drop, and keep doing it when he lotto things, and see how he like that, my point are plz stop spam RL bout stats on a raid, and don't use a public bord too bad mouth me where i don't got a chance to defend my self.

I am not hosting another Tg raid agin, only a Guild raid, so its up too people like trump too make a raid, i am not going through that agin, a Tg raid who take 7 - 8 hour to plan and go through, and lisen too people BS me, i am feel like i waste my time when shomting like this happen.

I am grateful fore whom who sent me tell's after raid and say thx fore a good raid, its sux even more too get all that BS when u host and don't get any loot u self, btw Lolitta send me a thx on this raid where Trump accused me off cheat whit loot, but she whin first loot a sword fore her SB, come too think of it Trump whin the shield, nameless Thane got hammer, Huzzai got stone last loot where some dye cant rember whom whin that.

But if i am realy are what Trump accused me off don't u think i keep that hammer and say she roll too late ?

Well enjoy the translate this letter, btw i am born dyslexic, i never learn English in school or German, but understand every thing just not good at write it...

Its as good as its come from my translation, know my spelling are not 100% but hope u understand its a bit better

pill i didten read all you try to translate but i will thanks for doing it ...

i have to say to the i missed it ... i didten missed his roll he havent roll when i asked if huzzai where the winner he rolled 3 mins later when trump had rolled that where more then 5 mins after stone roll where startet

do ppl like trump know why cg get closed when random is going on ?????????????? is it maby so ppl cant interupt the random ?

some of the words you use there pill i cant speel to but if ppl didten understand what we meen here i can get a english techer to white it for me !!!

but at end its notting i can do somting about its up to trump to post and say sorry or somting then i dont lead any raids and when ppl ask me why i will tell why

It's ok I get the general idea.

Here are my thoughts. Be brutal when leading. Talk in all caps, and make everyone else shut up. Use a different line for loot stats than what is normally talked on (make them talk in says, and use the chat channel to give stats). This puts you in a different color from everyone else, and that contrast makes it easier for people to notice. You can't make everyone be 100% quiet, so let them use some line. As soon as you give the stats on a nice item, you are going to get a lot of "drools" and "woot, awesome healer hammer!" and the other stuff. Just get it off /c.

SPAM when you lead. If there is something important, say it all caps and repeat it. And the first thing you spam is TIME FOR LOOT. KEEP OFF THIS LINE OR YOU CAN NOT ROLL FOR ANYTHING. Use your shift up to repeat that 3 or 4 times quickly. Make the chat private and boot anyone out who doesn't listen. Yeah it is mean but it is also fair.

About this specific case. If you said it, and someone doesn't pay attention, it is their fault and not yours. Move on. Obviously language barriers may have been an issue, so perhaps let someone more fluent in english or both languages handle the lotto next time? But it really shouldn't matter that much.

I really am a nice guy, but it may not come across as such when leading. Make a rule and stick to it. You can bet next time they pay attention if they get kicked out of chat. Warn em first if you want.

Lastly, don't let people get to you. Use /ignore if you have to. Obviously someone would be upset they missed out on a roll for such a wanted item, and probaly not the most level headed at the time. Let them go cool off and take em off ignore the next day.

agree with you there i will Law.. Tg raid's are NBG raid's NBG for thoes there dont know what NBG is ... i will tell now.. Need Before Greed

still see to menny ppl selling tg item's and again if u selling a tg item then u diden't need it... so why role on the item. personaley i only have healer breast plate and 2h hammer from tg... but again Henriette what ever happened down there on that raid... i will defend you anytime. you like a rl sister to me

this whit caps i will take to notis .. yes its best to spam some in cg and maby even make a werning if ppl small chat in chat they will get kicked .. but ppl will get mad over it !!!

the chat where closed .. thats why i got alotta tells and many says but ohh well ... /ignore them if its notting i need to hear !! like this whit the thane who where hammer spec and late on roll .... i am glad i won it and not one who didten liked to giv he it then it where tha thanes no matter what she had the spec for it...

but when you say candide this line .. if you said it, and somone doesn't pay attention , it is their fault not my you say what i say'd to trump in the cg after i had giv the stone away and then he rolled and one more

i hear trump have a log on this random i whod like him to post it here so i can see how long from i open the random to he rolled on the stone there where going ?

and if it where 1 or 2 mins ok then i where fast but if its like i say 4 to 5 mins then i coll trump slow and not paying attention

So he missed the lotto on the stone, and cause you gave the thane another chance, he wanted another chance?

Never liked Trump. This is why.