Any preferred site for decursive and whispercast? I was hand targetting dispel magic and heals the other night in MC and it was really driving me crazy because that bastage Lucifron blasts everyone in LOS (not just 35 yards, anyone who can see him) with that time bomb crap magic (10 secs to cast 10 dispels on 10 different people had me about ready to develop carpal tunnel). I kept seeing if there was a corner I could hide in to get out of the LOS while still keeping others targetable, but the positioning on Luci was bad so we were all getting hit.
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why everyone should get ctraidassist add on..
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post a link in the mod thread and i'll add it to the main post:
http://www.bloodwinterclan.com/topic_5605.html
As for the informative/delivery thing, not using raid assist (which primary purpose is to help the guild accomplish more than it has been) because someone makes it mandatory is equally asinine. sometimes you need to take a hard-nose stance on things like this, otherwise it doesn't get done.
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post a link in the mod thread and i'll add it to the main post:
http://www.bloodwinterclan.com/topic_5605.html
As for the informative/delivery thing, not using raid assist (which primary purpose is to help the guild accomplish more than it has been) because someone makes it mandatory is equally asinine. sometimes you need to take a hard-nose stance on things like this, otherwise it doesn't get done.
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killets wrote:As for the informative/delivery thing, not using raid assist (which primary purpose is to help the guild accomplish more than it has been) because someone makes it mandatory is equally asinine. sometimes you need to take a hard-nose stance on things like this, otherwise it doesn't get done.
That never was about CTRaid specifically. It's still not. It's all about the guild atmosphere.
Again, a "hard-nose" stance to "get this done" isn't really the atmosphere I want to be a part of. The approach was quite exclusionary in tone, and I found it akin to telling me how I have to spec my character and what class I have to play if I want to play with BWC.
If I listened to what I "had to do" all the time I'd be an arcane/fire mage instead of a frost mage. Just like most mages. At one point speccing frost was even considered "gimped", and now a spec like mine is considered one of the best group PvP specs at 60 and end game instance raiding.
Saying "you can't PvP with BWC unless you install x mod" would be like me saying "Sansa can't come PvP raid with me because she's not as good as Dwayne".
It may be true or not, but is that really a reason to exclude her? Maybe she comes along and learns something. Maybe she asks questions, and I help her get better. Maybe I even learn something from her. Bottom line is she might have fun, and she should be given that opportunity by me, her guild mate.
Besides, I like watching her run away screaming!
I'd rather we work together because we enjoy it, and let the rest sort itself out. If you make recommendations, pass information along, and treat people as intelligent enough to make their own decisions you will have more success and more fun.
(insert colloquialism about catching more flies with honey than vinegar here)
This is all just food for thought.
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we've all played mmorpgs for years. i don't feel the officers should be under any obligation to baby the guild along.
anyone who has lead bwc in-game for any amount of time knows that if you continually just "ask" people to install it, it just won't get done, and the guild suffers. i completely empathize with any raid leader who makes it mandatory, especially for mages, priests, and druids.
and no, this isn't anything at all like your analogies. this would be as if there were a tranquilizing shot spell that hunters could learn for free and the hunter refusing to use it on Magmadar because it was against his personal beliefs and was against the idea that the raid leader said the hunter has to use it on this next boss or they won't be able to beat it.
telling someone to spec one way is completely not like this at all, because there is no opportunity cost. installing this mod doesn't take away other mods. you don't even have to turn it on if you want to be an ass about it, you can just keep it installed so the response time your own character reporting is faster, and so you can see raid messages displayed by the raid leader sent using this mod.
seriously... everyone i've mentioned this discussion with has basically laughed their asses off, not that you care, especially coming from a guild where the guild leader used to unguild people on the spot for questioning an order he gave (aka whining), then PA/CD'ing him in front of the entire guild, then looting his body (and d did this at least 3 times on Andred).
Seriously, the complaint that I don't want to install RaidAssist because an officer said it was mandatory for the raid is eerily similar to what those people were doing on andred :/
anyone who has lead bwc in-game for any amount of time knows that if you continually just "ask" people to install it, it just won't get done, and the guild suffers. i completely empathize with any raid leader who makes it mandatory, especially for mages, priests, and druids.
and no, this isn't anything at all like your analogies. this would be as if there were a tranquilizing shot spell that hunters could learn for free and the hunter refusing to use it on Magmadar because it was against his personal beliefs and was against the idea that the raid leader said the hunter has to use it on this next boss or they won't be able to beat it.
telling someone to spec one way is completely not like this at all, because there is no opportunity cost. installing this mod doesn't take away other mods. you don't even have to turn it on if you want to be an ass about it, you can just keep it installed so the response time your own character reporting is faster, and so you can see raid messages displayed by the raid leader sent using this mod.
seriously... everyone i've mentioned this discussion with has basically laughed their asses off, not that you care, especially coming from a guild where the guild leader used to unguild people on the spot for questioning an order he gave (aka whining), then PA/CD'ing him in front of the entire guild, then looting his body (and d did this at least 3 times on Andred).
Seriously, the complaint that I don't want to install RaidAssist because an officer said it was mandatory for the raid is eerily similar to what those people were doing on andred :/
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ok...
1) this is about you complaining about how a game addon is mandatory. in this _specific_ case, you have been complaining about the mandatory requirement of CT_RaidAssist, so it very much is about it.
2)
How are you not whining about guildmembers being mandated by guildleaders to use this mod to attend guild raids, whether they like it or not? Never mind the fact that you've been closed minded about this whole thing because you felt Eirene's "mandate" was too inflexible, since everyone who actually has installed it and used it instead of just whining about it has actually found it very useful. I haven't seen one person who installed it, used it on a raid, and stated that it made the raid too easy.
1) this is about you complaining about how a game addon is mandatory. in this _specific_ case, you have been complaining about the mandatory requirement of CT_RaidAssist, so it very much is about it.
2)
slythetove wrote:Can I ask why I should be forced to use a UI mod?
slythetove wrote:Perhaps you could explain to me how the raid would fail because I don't have a UI mod.
slythetove wrote:That's pretty rough. I wonder why Blizzard designed encounters that couldn't be completed without UI mods that they didn't release...
slythetove wrote:Perhaps it's not that someone is "too lazy" as you put it to download a UI mod.
Perhaps for some people the "challenge" of being a great healer without the "crutches" is part of the fun.
Just something to think about.
slythetove wrote:I'm not sure if you will ever understand where I'm coming from on this. It's not about proving / ego. It's about fun and playing a video game.
For some people using these type of UI crutches takes the fun out of playing the game.
There are literally enough UI mods that as a priest you could basically reactively auto target / auto heal / auto cure / auto everything for the whole raid.
You may find that fun, but I'm just trying to tell you that some people don't. I also understand that for some people the "fun" is just completing MC no matter what they have to install / use to do it. For others the fun is playing the game.
How are you not whining about guildmembers being mandated by guildleaders to use this mod to attend guild raids, whether they like it or not? Never mind the fact that you've been closed minded about this whole thing because you felt Eirene's "mandate" was too inflexible, since everyone who actually has installed it and used it instead of just whining about it has actually found it very useful. I haven't seen one person who installed it, used it on a raid, and stated that it made the raid too easy.
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well i'm high enough to grind with SM grps now, thats 6-7 free lvls right there. Give me another month at the most and i'm all set
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